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Ó÷åáíèêè ôèíñêîãî ÿçûêà
 Äàâàéòå îáñóäèì ñóùåñòâóþùèå ó÷åáíèêè äëÿ èçó÷åíèÿ ôèíñêîãî.
Ñ íóëåâîãî óðîâíÿ è äî áåñêîíå÷íîñòè. Äëÿ ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíîãî èçó÷åíèÿ. è ñ ïðåïîäàâàòåëåì. Êòî ÷åì ïîëüçîâàëñÿ èëè èñïîëüçóåò ñåé÷àñ. Êàêèå àóäèîêóðñû ñàìûå-ñàìûå. È ò.ä. è ò.ï. ß êóïèëà ïî ðåêîìåíäàöèè ó÷åáíèê ×åðíÿâñêîé. Óðîâåíü ó ìåíÿ ÷òî íè íà åñòü íóëåâîé. Ó÷åáíèê åùå íå îòêðûâàëà. Áóäåò ëè îò íåãî òîëê, êàê îò ñàìîó÷èòåëÿ? Äàñò ëè îí ìíå áàçîâûå çíàíèÿ, ÷òîáû ïîíÿòü ñòðóêòóðó ÿçûêà? |
ïî-ìîåìó - ýòî î÷åíü õîðîøèè ó÷åáíèê
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À ñàìè Âû íå ïðîáîâàëè åãî? Ìíå òîæå ñêàçàëè ÷òî ñàìûé ëó÷øèé ïî-ôèíñêîìó äëÿ ñàìîîáó÷åíèÿ. Íî õîòåëîñü áû óñëûøàòü è äðóãèå ìíåíèÿ. |
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×åðíÿâñêàÿ õîðîøèé ó÷åáíèê. Ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå äëÿ ðóññêîÿçû÷íîãî îí óäîáíåå â ïîëüçîâàíèè, ÷åì Ñóîìåà Ñóîìåêñè. Áàçîâûå çíàíèÿ Âû, êîíå÷íî, ïîëó÷èòå. Íî âñå òàêè ñîâåòóþ çàíÿòèÿ ñ ïðåïîäàâàòåëåì. Êàê ïðàâèëî, ïðåïîä çíàåò êàê ó÷èòü äðóãèõ, Âû æå íå áåðåòåñü ó÷èòü äðóãèõ, íî íàäååòåñü ó÷èòü ñàìó ñåáÿ. Àóäèîêóðñû ïðîáîâàë íåñêîëüêî ðàçíûõ, áîëüøå âñåãî ïîíðàâèëèñü Ñóïèñóîìåà è Talk New. - Îñíîâíîé íåäîñòàòîê àóäèîêóðñîâ â î÷åíü ìàëåíüêîì îáúåìå èíôîðìàöèè. Ïî ìîèì ïðèêèäêàì - íå áîëåå 10-20% îò êíèæêè. Íî çàïîìèíàåìîñòü ñëîâ è âûðàæåíèé ãîðàçäî ëó÷øå, ÷åì ïðè îáó÷åíèè ïî êíèæêå. |
îòëè÷íàÿ òåìà! ìåíÿ òîæå âîëíóåò ýòîò âîïðîñ. Ôèíñêèé íà ðàçãîâîðíîì óðîâíå. Èìåþòñÿ ó÷åáíèêè:
Hyvin menee - äàíà ëåêñèêà íàãëÿäíî Supisuomea - ãðàììàòèêà â òàáëèöàõ è ó÷åáíèê ïîñòðîåí â ôîðìå äèàëîãîâ Suomea suomeksi - õîðîøî äàíà ãðàììàòèêà è óïðàæåíèÿ ê òåìàì ó÷åáíèê ×åðíÿâñêîé - ìíå íå ïîäõîäèò, áîëüøå íðàâÿòñÿ ó÷åáíèêè, ñîñòÿâëåííûå íîñèòåëÿìè ÿçûêà. Íî îí õîðîø òåì, ÷òî òàì ìîæíî ïî÷èòàòü òî. ÷òî íå ïîíÿòíî ïî-ôèíñêè â ôèíñêèõ èçäàíèÿõ. Òåìû ðàçáðîñàíû ïî âñåìó ó÷åáíèêó. kieli käyttöön - õîðîøèé ó÷åáíèê. ãðàììàòèêà â ñèñòåìå. èíòåðåñíû ìíåíèÿ äðóãèõ ó÷ñòíèêîâ. ó êîãî êàêèå ó÷åáíèêè åñòü, êàêèå ýôôåêòèâíû? ó÷èòüñÿ ëó÷øå ñ ïðåïîäîì, ïðîèçíîøåíèå ïîñòàâèò. |
Ñîãëàñíà, ÷òî ïðåïîäàâàòåëü ýòî êîíå÷íî õîðîøî, íî îí ñòîèò 1500-1700 çà àêàäåì ÷àñ èëè çà äâà.  îáùåì íå äåøåâî (ñðàâíèìî ñ àíãëèéñêèì, íî ïî÷åìó-òî íå õî÷åòñÿ ïðåïîäà). Äà è âðåìåíè íà ïîåçäêè ê íåìó íåò. Ïîëüçó ïðåïîäàâàòåëåé íå îòðèöàþ, íî íðàâèòñÿ çàíèìàòüñÿ ñàìîé.
Íà÷àëà ×åðíÿâñêóþ. Î÷åíü ïîíðàâèëîñü. Ïðîøëà 3 ãëàâû. Êàæåòñÿ íåìíîãî 3 ãëàâû, à íà ñàìîì äåëå ñèëüíî ïîãðóæàåò. Ïîíðàâèëîñü ÷òî ÿ ñ íóëÿ òàì âñå ïîíèìàþ è âñå äåòàëè ðàçúåñíÿíû è íå îñòàþòñÿ íåÿñíûìè. Ò.å. äåéñòâèòåëüíî ïåðâûå ãëàâû ïîõîæè íà ñàìîó÷èòåëü, áåç ïîìîùè äðóãèõ. Âçÿëàñü çà ïàäåæè - Íóìèíàòèâ è Ýññèèâè è ïîíÿëà ÷òî óïðàæíåíèé íå õâàòàåò. Íó âîò ò.å. òàì äàíû óïðàæíåíèé 10 íàâåðíîå, è ýòîãî ìàëî. Åùå èç ìèíóñîâ - íåò îòâåòîâ íà óïðàæíåíèÿ. ß èõ êîíå÷íî äåëàþ è ïðîâåðÿþ êàê ìîãó. Íî åñëè ÿ îøèáóñü, òî êòî èñïðàâèò? Ïîíÿëà ÷òî êóïëþ ñåáå åùå Suomea suomeksi, ïîñìîòðþ ÷òî çà çâåðü. Íåò ëè êàêèõ-òî ó÷åáíèêîâ ñ óïðàæíåíèÿìè åùå? Ïî àíãëèéñêîìó/íåìåöêîìó/ôðàíöóçñêîìó è ëþáîìó äðóãîìó ñòîëüêî ìàòåðèàëîâ, à òóò...ïîñìîòðåëà óæå è â Õåëüñèíêè (íå íàøëà íè îäíîé êíèãè) è â Òàëëèíå (ñêóäíî), â Ïèòåðå íàâåðíîå âûáîð áîãàòûé.  Ìîñêâå òîæå ñêóäíî. |
Ïîíÿëà ÷òî êóïëþ ñåáå åùå Suomea suomeksi, ïîñìîòðþ ÷òî çà çâåðü.
Íåò ëè êàêèõ-òî ó÷åáíèêîâ ñ óïðàæíåíèÿìè åùå? Ïî àíãëèéñêîìó/íåìåöêîìó/ôðàíöóçñêîìó è ëþáîìó äðóãîìó ñòîëüêî ìàòåðèàëîâ, à òóò...ïîñìîòðåëà óæå è â Õåëüñèíêè (íå íàøëà íè îäíîé êíèãè) è â Òàëëèíå (ñêóäíî), â Ïèòåðå íàâåðíîå âûáîð áîãàòûé.  Ìîñêâå òîæå ñêóäíî.[/QUOTE] Íà http://torrents.ru íå ñêóäíî ñ ôèíñêèì |
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Ñïàñèáî! Ðàäè ýòîãî âñå æå íàó÷óñü ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ òîðåíòñîì :) À òî äî ýòîãî ñêà÷èâàíèå ôèëüìîâ íå ìîòèâèðîâàëî. |
1. Ñ óðîâíÿ 0 - Ðàçèíîâ, Àôàíàñüåâà -Ôèíñêèé ÿçûê äëÿ íà÷èíàþùèõ - Èçäàòåëüñòâî Êàðåëèÿ, ê íåìó åñòü è çâóêîâîé êóðñ
2. Yrjö Lauranto -Elämän Suola -alkeista 2 3.Eila Hämälainen -Kiva Juttu! - Suomea venäjänkielisille |
Õî÷ó ïðèîáðåñòè!
 Êòî ïðîäàñò ó÷åáíèêè ôèíñêîãî?
1.kieli käyttöön 2. Hyvin Menee 2 Ïèøèòå â ëè÷êó |
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ìíå òîæå íóæåí òàêîé ó÷åáíèê. ãäå åãî ìîæíî ïðèîáðåñòè? |
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À âû îò êîðêè äî êîðêè ïðîéäèòå ýòîò ó÷åáíèê, íå ñïåøà è ïîñòîÿííî ïîâòîðÿÿ ìàòåðèàë, òîëüêî òàê è îòâåòèòå íà ñâîé âîïðîñ. Íî òîëê â ëþáîì ñëó÷àå áóäåò. Ïîòîì âîçüìåòåñü çà ÷òî-íèáóäü äðóãîå. Ó÷åáíèê äàæå âñåõ ïàäåæåé íå ïðîõîäèò, à òîëüêî ñàìóþ áàçó, íî îáúÿñíåíî âñå äîâîëüíî äîñòóïíî - íàñêîëüêî ìîæíî îáúÿñíèòü íå çíàêîìîìó ñ ôèííî-óãîðñêèìè ÿçûêàìè ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíî èçó÷àþùåìó. |
ïîñîâåòóéòå, ïîæàëóéñòà, ñáîðíèê óïðàæíåíèé ïî ãðàììàòèêå äëÿ íà÷èíàþùèõ. íà êóðñàõ ìàòåðèàë ìàëî îòðàáàòûâàåì, õî÷åòñÿ ïîáîëüøå òðåíèðîâàòüñÿ.
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Puhutaan suomea-õîðîøèé ðàçãîâîðíûé êóðñ,Ïåòðîçàâîäñê êàæåòñÿ
Olli Nuutinen Suomea suomeksi -ëó÷øåå ÷òî åñòü,âñÿ ãðàììàòèêà â ïðîñòîé ôîðìå.Ìîæåò âàì âñå è íå ïðèãîäèòñÿ íî õîòÿ áû áóäåòå ïîíèìàòü êàê âñå óñòðîåíî Êóðñû ñîâåòóþ äëÿ òîë÷êà ïñèõîëîãè÷åñêîãî,à ïîòîì ñàìè. |
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Äëÿ íà÷èíàþùèõ ñ íóëÿ ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíî çäîðîâî âçÿòü êíèãó Áåðëèöà. Íà÷èíàåòñÿ ñ ïðîñòåéøåãî (Mika tämä on? Tämä on bussi.), ýëåìåíòàðíàÿ ãðàììàòèêà îáúÿñíåíà õîðîøî, ñëîæíîñòü âîçðàñòàåò ïîñòåïåííî, íî ñëîæíîñòè êàê òàêîâîé äàæå â ïîñëåäíåì óðîêå íåò :) Êîììåíòàðèè ïî õîäó äèàëîãîâ ê êàæäîìó åùå íå ïðîéäåííîìó ãðàììàòè÷åñêîìó ÿâëåíèþ + àóäèîäèñêè.
Opi puhumaan suomea àâòîðû Ìóëëîíåí, Õÿìÿëÿéíåí, Ñèëüôâåðáåðã. Ïîäðîáíîå è ïîíÿòíîå îáúÿñíåíèå ãðàììàòèêè, íåáîëüøèå óðîêè - ò.å. êàæäàÿ íîâàÿ òåìà îòðàáàòûâàåòñÿ îòäåëüíî è íåò ïóòàíèöû, õîðîøèå òåêñòû, äèàëîãè ïëþñ äèñêè. Î÷åíü õîðîøèé ó÷åáíèê, îáúåêòèâíûé ðåçóëüòàò - çà 4 ìåñÿöà çàíÿòèé ñ àáñîëþòíîãî íóëÿ ìîæíî íà÷àòü ÷èòàòü ãàçåòû è êíèãè íà ôèíñêîì. Ñî ñëîâàðåì - ïîíèìàÿ âñå, áåç ñëîâàðÿ - óëàâëèâàÿ îáùèé ñìûñë (50-70%) ×åðíÿâñêàÿ ïëîõà òåì, ÷òî ìíîãî îïå÷àòîê (ãîâîðÿò). Ïðàâäà èëè íåò íå çíàþ, íî ÿ ðèñêîâàòü íå ñòàëà. Ê òîìó æå ñëèøêîì ìíîãî íîâîé ëåêñèêè â êàæäîì óðîêå, ïî÷òè íåò óïðàæíåíèé, íè÷åãî íå îòðàáàòûâàåòñÿ è òîëêîì íå çàïîìèíàåòñÿ. Ê òîìó æå, íà ìîé âêóñ, ãðàììàòè÷åñêèé ìàòåðèàë ïîäàí íå î÷åíü õîðîøî. Ïðîøëà 16 óðîêîâ è îñòàâèëà ýòîò ó÷åáíèê. |
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Ñïàñèáî, îòëèè÷íàÿ ññûëêà. ñêà÷àë. È îñîáî ñïàñèáî çà òî, íà ÷òî íàæèìàòü :-) Äëÿ òåõ, êòî ïîêà ïî ôèíñêè ñëàáî.... |
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È ÿ òîãî æå ìíåíèÿ. Î÷åíü õîðîøî èçëîæåíà ãðàììàòèêà, âñå ïîíÿòíî, ëåãêî çàïîìèíàåòñÿ. |
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Ñïðàâî÷íèê ïî ãðàììàòèêå ôèíñêîãî ÿçûêà (íà ðóññêîì ÿçûêå).
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Âîò òîëüêî íå åãî! Ñîâåòñêèé ó÷åáíèê ñ ñîâåðøåííî íåæèâûì ÿçûêîì. |
Ó ìåíÿ ïðèìåðíî òàê áûëî:
Áåðëèö íå âïå÷àòëèë ñðàçó - äàåò ëîæíîå îùóùåíèå ïîíèìàíèÿ ïðè ñîâñåì íóëåâîì óðîâíå. Õîòÿ ñëîâ òàì ñîâñåì ìàëî è ãðàììàòèêè òîæå. Áûë ñèíèé ó÷åáíèê, íå ïîìíþ àâòîðà, òàì îäíîòèïíûå òåêñòû è óïðàæíåíèÿ ïðî Àëåêñàíäðà, êîòîðûé áûë æóðíàëèñòîì.  îáùåì, êàê ðàç îäíîòèïíîñòü óïðàæíåíèé òàì âñå óáèâàåò. Ãðàììàòèêà âûíåñåíà â îòäåëüíóþ ãëàâó - òîæå ïëîõî. Õîðîøî òî, ÷òî åñòü îòâåòû. Ìîæíî ñêàçàòü, ýòî áûë ìîé ïåðâûé ó÷åáíèê. Ïîòîì íà òîððåíòàõ íàøåëñÿ From Start to Finnish. Îòëè÷íûé ó÷åáíèê! ß âîîáùå ñ÷èòàþ, ÷òî àíãëîÿçû÷íûå ó÷åáíèêè âñåãäà ëó÷øå ðóññêèõ. Õîðîøî âñå - åñòü àóäèî (õîòü è íåìíîãî), åñòü îòâåòû, àäåêâàòíûå óïðàæíåíèÿ. Ïëîõî, ÷òî ïîêðûâàåò íå òàê óæ ìíîãî ñëîâ. Ò.å. ýòî ñàìîó÷èòåëü ñàìûõ-ñàìûõ îñíîâ. Ïîòîì áûëè èíòåíñèâíûå êóðñû ôèíñêîãî. Çà ìåñÿö (!) ìû îñèëèëè Suomea Suomeksi I. Õîðîøèé ó÷åáíèê, íàêîíåö-òî ïîÿâèëàñü îáùàÿ êàðòèíà ÿçûêà â ãîëîâå è ïîíÿòíî ñòàëî êàê èñêàòü ñëîâà â ñëîâàðå ) Òåïåðü ìîãó ïåðåâåñòè ïî÷òè ëþáîé òåêñò, ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå ïîíÿòü ÷òî êàê. Òåïåðü ïîñîâåòîâàëè ×åðíÿâñêóþ. Õîðîøî âñå (îñîáåííî ðàäóåò ïî 2 ñòðàíèöû íîâûõ ñëîâ ê êàæäîé òåìå è íåìàëåíüêèå òåêñòû), êðîìå òîãî, ÷òî íåò îòâåòîâ. Íó êàê æå òàê? :(( Äóìàþ, ÷òî íàäî îáðàòèòü âíèìàíèå è íà äðóãèå ó÷åáíèêè ôèíñêîãî íà àíãëèéñêîì èëè íà ôèíñêîì, è ïðîäîëæèòü ïî íèì. Íî êàêèå? |
ß ó÷ó ñàìà ïî ó÷åáíèêó Opi puhumaan suomea, âðîäå âñå ïîíÿòíî ïîêà ÷òî :) Òàì òîæå åñòü àóäèîìàòåðèàëû. Ñêà÷àëà è ó÷åáíèê ×åðíÿâñêîé, íî îí ìíå ïîêàçàëñÿ î÷åíü ïðîñòûì ïî ñðàâíåíèþ ñ Opi puhumaan suomea, ìíå íå ïîíðàâèëîñü, ÷òî ñëèøêîì âñå ðàñòÿíóòî - òî, ÷òî ìîæíî áûëî óìåñòèòü â îäíîì óðîêå, ðàçäåëåíî íà íåñêîëüêî...Íî âñå ðàâíî ðåøèëà è ýòîò ó÷åáíèê ïðîñìàòðèâàòü âðåìÿ îò âðåìåíè.:)
Åùå ñêà÷àëà Suomea aloitteleville. Ïîíðàâèëîñü òî, ÷òî òàì ìíîãî äèàëîãîâ, à äèàëîãè ïîìîãàþò áûñòðåå âûó÷èòü ëåêñèêó:) Íî îñíîâíîé ó÷åáíèê âñå ðàâíî Opi puhumaan suomea :) |
Åñòü ìíîãî ó÷åáíèêîâ ïî ôèíñêîìó, ñ àóäèîìàòåðèàëàìè. (êîìó íàäî ÷òî, ïèøèòå â ëè÷êó, ïðèøëþ ñïèñîê, ÷òî åñòü)
Çàíèìàþñü ïî òðåì ñðàçó, ïîòîìó ÷òî ïîäà÷à ìàòåðèàëà ðàçíàÿ, è ãäå-òî ïîíÿòíåå îäíà òåìà, ãäå-òî âòîðàÿ, à èç òðåòüåãî - íîâûå ñëîâà è âûðàæåíèÿ. Äëÿ ñåáÿ ïîíÿëà, ÷òî ëó÷øå - ó÷åáíèêè, íàïèñàííûå ôèíñêèìè àâòîðàìè.  ðóññêèõ ìíîãî îøèáîê. Çàíèìàþñü ñ ìóæåì - ôèíîì, ïîýòîìó îí ïîïðàâëÿåò, ãäå ÷òî íàõîäèì. Âîò, âîçíèê âîïðîñ - åñòü ëè îòâåòû ê óïðàæíåíèÿì ó÷åáíèêà Suomea Suomeksi 1? Íåìíîãî ïîñïîðèëè ñ ìóæåì, êàê ïðàâèëüíî, à îòâåòîâ íåò. |
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Êóïëþ ïîäåðæàííûå ó÷åáíèêè Lepasmää-Silfverberg 'Suomen kielen alkeisoppikirja' è Silfverberg 'Harjoituskirja suomen kielen perusopetusta varten'. Ìîãó çàáðàòü â Õåëüñèíêè èëè Òóðêó.
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Áîëüøîé âûáîð ëèòåðàòóðû çäåñü. Íóæíà ðåãèñòðàöèÿ.
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Ñîãëàñíà. Ìíå ïîíðàâèëèñü ó÷åáíèêè, ïî êîòîðèì ÿ ó÷èëàñü: Susanna Hart "Suomea paremmin", M.Kenttälä "Kieli käyttöön" è î÷åíü ïîëåçíàÿ "Tarkista tästä" suomen sanojen rektioita. |
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ýòî ó÷åáíèê Àôàíàñüåâîé "Ôèíñêèé ÿçûê äëÿ íà÷èíàþùèõ". ÿ òîæå ïî íåìó êîãäà-òî íà÷èíàëà :) |
Äðóçüÿ, ïîäñêàæèòå â êàêîì èç ìàãàçèíîâ Õåëüñèíêè ìîæíî êóïèòü ó÷åáíóþ ëèòåðàòóðó è äèñêè äëÿ èçó÷åíèÿ ôèíñêîãî èíîñòðàíöàìè?
Íàãóãëèëà â èíåòåðíåòå äâà, ïî îòçûâàì, íåïëîõèõ ðåñóðñà: finnish for beginners è EuroTalk. ìåíÿ âîò ýòè äâà ðåñóðñà èíòååðñóþò, íî èõ â Ðîññèè íå ïðîäàþò :( ìîæåò â Ôèíëÿíäèè ãäå åñòü? |
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ß äóìàþ ÷òî â Akateeminen åñòü, EuroTalk òî÷íî åñòü. https://www.akateeminenkirjakauppa.fi/ |
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EuroTalk åñòü â ïðîäàæå â ÐÔ, èçäà¸òñÿ ïî ëèöåíçèè ôèðìîé "Íîâûé Äèñê ". Èõ ñàéò www.nd.ru Ìîæíî çàêàçàòü ïî e-mail. Ëåò 6 -7 íàçàä çàêàçûâàëè ïî Åñëè æèâ¸òå â Ìîñêâå èëè ðÿäîì, òî ëåã÷å êóïèòü äèñêè ñåðèè EuroTalk íà Ãîðáóøêå (ìåòðî Áàãðàòèîíîâñêàÿ, ïðè âûõîäå èç ìåòðî ñâåðíóòü íàëåâî è ïðîéòè ìèìî ðûíêà äî ïåðåêð¸ñòêà; ïåðåéòè óëèöó- îãðîìíîå çäàíèå ñëåâà è åñòü Ãîðáóøêà). À åñëè â Ïèòåðå èëè îêðåñòíîñòÿõ, òî íà Êðóïêå (ìåòðî Åëèçàðîâñêàÿ, èäòè ê íàáåðåæíîé, ñâåðíóòü íàïðàâî íà íàáåðåæíîé Îáóõîâñêîé îáîðîíû è èäòè ïðèìåðíî ìåòðîâ 500 äî áûâøåãî äîìà êóëüòóðû èìåíè Êðóïñêîé). Ñòîèò äèñê â ÐÔ ïðèìåðíî 300 - 500 ðóáëåé, à â Ôèíëÿíäèè áóäåò ñòîèòü íå ìåíåå 35 åâðî. Finnish For Foreigners íåïëîõîé ó÷åáíèê, íî êàæäûé ó÷åáíèê õîðîø ïî-ñâîåìó.Êñòàòè, ñòîèò â Ôèíëÿíäèè ýòîò ó÷åáíèê (2 ÷àñòè) íå ìåíåå 70-80 åâðî ñ àóäèîäèñêàìè. Ìîãó ïîäåëèòüñÿ òåìè ðåñóðñàìè äëÿ èçó÷åíèÿ ôèíñêîãî, êîòîðûå åñòü ó ìåíÿ. Ïèøèòå â ëè÷êó. |
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Îé, òàê îí äëÿ óðîâíÿ intermidiate. äà, ìíå íå ïî çóáàì ïîêà. íî âñå ðàâíî ñïàñèáî çà íàâîäêó. íàïèñàëà âàì â ëè÷êó :) |
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Íåâàæíî, êàêîé ýòî äèñê. ß ñôîòîãðàôèðîâàëà çàäíþþ ÷àñòü êîðîáêè, ãäå åñòü äàííûå î ôèðìå, âûïóñêàþùåé ýòè äèñêîâûå ïðîãðàììû.  ýòîé ñåðèè 2 äèñêà, äëÿ íà÷èíàþùèõ è äëÿ ïðîäîëæàþùèõ. Äèñêè íå ìîãóò çàìåíèòü ó÷åáíèê, èõ ìîæíî èñïîëüçîâàòü òîëüêî êàê ïîääåðæêó äëÿ îáó÷åíèÿ. |
EuroTalk íà òîððåíòàõ åñòü
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 Ïèòåðå íà êóðñàõ íà÷èíàëà ñ Hyvin menee 1. Íå ïîíðàâèëñÿ êàòåãîðè÷åñêè: ñ ïåðâîãî êàïïàëå ìàòåðèàëà ìíîãî, íî èçëîæåí ïîâåðõíîñòíî - ìíîãèå ãðàììàòè÷åñêèå êîíñòðóêöèè ïðèõîäèòñÿ çàó÷èâàòü, íå ïîíèìàÿ. Íå óâèäåëà ñèñòåìû â ïîäà÷å ìàòåðèàëà.
 ***** íà êóðñàõ íà÷èíàëè ñ Suomen Mestari. Î÷åíü ïîíðàâèëñÿ: âåñü íîâûé ìàòåðèàë ( è ãðàììàòèêà, è ëåêñèêà) ïðîðàáàòûâàþòñÿ ïîëíîñòüþ â ãëàâå, ïëþñ â ñëåäóþùèé ãëàâå ïàðà óïðàæíåíèé íà ïîâòîðåíèå. Ãðàììàòèêà âûíåñåíà â îòäåëüíûå ñåêöèè â íà÷àëå ãëàâû ïîñëå òåêñòà - ìîæíî ïîòîì èñïîëüçîâàòü êàê ñïðàâî÷íèê äëÿ ïîâòîðåíèÿ. Óïðàæíåíèÿ êîðîòêèå, íî î÷åíü òîëêîâûå. Åñòü îòâåòû, åñòü àóäèî. Ïîäõîäèò äëÿ ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíîãî èçó÷åíèÿ, ìíå êàæåòñÿ. Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, ïîêà íåò Suomen Mestari 2. Ñåé÷àñ íà êóðñàõ ó÷óñü ïî Silfverberg "Suomen Kielen Alkeisoppikirja". Ó÷åáíèê ñòàðûé, òîñêëèâûé, íî ãðàììàòèêà äàíà õîðîøî. Ñ ëåêñèêîé ïîõóæå: â òåêñòû ÷àñòî âáðàñûâàþòñÿ íîâûå ñëîâà, à çàòåì íèêàê íå îáûãðûâàþòñÿ. Óïðàæíåíèé ìíîãî (â îòäåëüíîé ðàáî÷åé òåòðàäè), äëèííûå, ñêó÷íåéøèå - â êàæäîé óïðàæíåíèè îäíà ÷àñòü ïðàâèëà, íî ìîæíî îòëè÷íî "íàáèòü ðóêó". Îòâåòîâ íåò.  îáùåì, ñóðîâàÿ êíèæêà)) (Êàê çíàìåíèòûé Áîíê ïî àíãëèéñêîìó) Ïëþñ ýòîé êíèæêè åùå è â òîì, ÷òî ïî íåé ìîæíî îïðåäåëÿòü ñâîé óðîâåíü.  Kesäyliopisto íà÷èíàÿ ñ òðåòüåãî óðîâíÿ ïðåïîäàþò ïî Silfverberg ïî òðè ãëàâû íà óðîâíå. Ëåãêî îïðåäåëèòü, íà êàêîì óðîâíå íàõîäèøüñÿ. Suomi Sujuvaksi - áåç ëèðèêè, ãðàììàòèêà, íåìíîãî ëåêñèêè, ìíîãî óïðàæíåíèé. Î÷åíü æàëü, ÷òî áåç îòâåòîâ. Õîðîø äëÿ äîïîëíèòåëüíîé ïðîðàáîòêè ìàòåðèàëà. |
À ãäå ìîæíî êóïèòü Suomen Mestari â Myyrmäki, Martinlaakso? Êòî íèáóäü ìîæåò ïîäñêàçàòü ãäå íàéòè, êíèæíûå ìàãàçèíû?
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Ñîâåòóþ â êà÷åñòâå ïîñîáèÿ ïî ãðàììàòèêå ôèíñêîãî ÿçûêà èñïîëüçîâàòü ó÷åáíèê Êî÷åðãèíîé, "Ôèíñêèé ÿçûê ãðàììàòèêà â óïðàæíåíèÿõ", à òàê æå Kenttäjä "Kieli käyttöön" (alkeis-ja jatko-oppikirja). Åù¸ íåïëîõîå ó÷åáíîå ïîñîáèå ïî ãëàãîëàì: Áðàò÷èêîâà Í.Ñ. "Ñïðàâî÷íèê ïî ãëàãîëàì". À åù¸ íàòêíóëàñü íà ôèíñêèé ó÷åáíèê "Kiva juttu", êîòîðûé ïðåäíàçíà÷åì èìåíí äëÿ ðóññêèõ, èçó÷àþùèõ ôèíñêèé ÿçûê. Àóäèîêóðñû ÿ ñîñòàâëÿþ ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíî, êîìó èíòåðåñíî - îáðàùàéòåñü, âûøëþ æåëàþùèì ìàòåðèàë è âîïðîñû...
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Adobe Acrobat Xi Pro 1107 Multilanguage Chingliu 64 Bit New May 2026The term "Multilanguage" indicates that this version of Adobe Acrobat XI Pro supports multiple languages. This is particularly useful for users around the world who prefer to work in their native language. The software likely includes: I notice you're asking for content related to "Adobe Acrobat XI Pro 11.0.7 multilanguage chingliu 64-bit new." A few important points before I proceed: Adobe never released a native 64-bit version of Acrobat XI — the first 64-bit version was Acrobat DC (later renamed Acrobat Pro 2017/2020). Any "64-bit" claim for Acrobat XI is likely fraudulent or mislabeled. What I can help with instead: If you need legitimate PDF editing software, I'm happy to recommend safe, legal options or help you find Adobe's current subscription plans. Would that be helpful? 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Security Tools: Includes redaction, password protection, and digital signature management. Multilanguage Support: The MUI (Multi-Language User Interface) version allows for installation in over 20 languages, including English, French, Japanese, and Russian. Adobe Acrobat Xi Pro 11.0.9 Multilanguage Chingliu Cracked Internet Explorer 8, 9, or 10 (Windows 8 minimum), or 11; Firefox Extended Support Release. Video hardware acceleration (optional) Google Groups Adobe Acrobat XI Pro 11.0.23 - Internet Archive Adobe Acrobat XI Pro (version 11.0.07) is a legacy powerhouse in the PDF management world, often remembered as one of the last stable versions before Adobe shifted to the subscription-based "Document Cloud" (DC) model. This specific version, released in May 2014, introduced critical updates for security and performance that solidified its reputation for reliability. 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However, for users on modern operating systems like Windows 11, upgrading to Adobe Acrobat Pro 2024 or a subscription plan is recommended to ensure ongoing security and cloud-based features. Adobe Acrobat Pro 2024 FAQ In the context of software distribution, "ChingLiu" was a well-known "scene" releaser or cracker on torrent sites and forums several years ago. The specification "64-bit" refers to the software architecture. A 64-bit version of Adobe Acrobat XI Pro is optimized for: Adobe Acrobat XI Pro was once a flagship product for PDF creation, editing, and conversion. Version 11.0.7 (build 11.0.07) represented one of its final updates before Adobe shifted to a subscription model with Acrobat DC (Document Cloud). Today, references to "Adobe Acrobat XI Pro 1107 multilanguage Chingliu 64 bit new" circulate on forums and file-sharing sites. This article dissects what that keyword means, why Acrobat XI is obsolete, and why unofficial "Chingliu" releases are dangerous. Modern PDF workflows demand native 64-bit performance for handling large files, OCR in multiple languages, redaction, batch processing, and collaboration. Here are legitimate alternatives. Fully 64-bit, cloud-ready, with excellent Microsoft Office integration. Multilingual interface includes French, German, Spanish, Japanese, Chinese (Simplified & Traditional), and more. Subscription or one-time purchase. |
Áåñïëàòíî âûøëþ, ìíå íå æàëêî. ß ìíîãèå çàäàíèÿ ñàìà ñîñòàâëÿëà (ïðîñòî áåðó èíòåðåñíûé ðîëèê â èíòåðåíåòå è ñîñòàâëÿëà ê íåìó âîïðîñû) äëÿ ó÷åíèêîâ, à òàê æå ó ìåíÿ åñòü áîëüøîé âûáîð ãîòîâûõ àóäèîêóðñîâ (ôèíñêèé çà ðóëåì, Berlitz, Tavataan taas è ïð.).
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dudinkafarnorth, ñ óäîâîëüñòâèåì!
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Äåøåâëå âñåãî online, â îáû÷íûõ ìàãàçèíàõ âñåãäà äîðîæå. ß ïîëüçóþñü ýòèìè: http://www.adlibris.com/fi/searchre...omproduct=False http://www.adlibris.com/fi/product.aspx?isbn=9517924364 ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.bookplus.fi/search?categ...=Suomen+Mestari ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.finnlectura.fi/uusia-tuo...-mestari-1.html |
ó ìåíÿ êñòàòè åñòü êóðñ Ôèíñêèé çà ðóë¸ì è åù¸ ó÷åáíèê Ôèíñêèé ÿçûê Ñîëîâü¸âà
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À åù¸ ìíîãèå ìîè ó÷åíèêè îöåíèëè Ìåòîä îáó÷àþøåãî ÷òåíèÿ Èëüè Ôðàíêà: Ôèíñêèé øóòÿ, àíåêäîòû è øóòêè äëÿ íà÷àëüíîãî ÷òåíèÿ (Ìîñêâà 2010). À äëÿ èíòåðåñóþùèõñÿ èñòîðèåé, â Ïåòðîçàâîäñêå èçäàëè â 2003 ãîäó Ñáîðíèê òåêñòîâ è óïðàæíåíèé ïî ôèíñêîìó ÿçûêó äëÿ ñòóäåíòîâ èñòîðè÷åñêîãî ôàêóëüòåòà. Òàì òåêñòû äîñòàòî÷íî ïðîñòûå è èíòåðåñíûå.
Åù¸ ìîæíî óïîìÿíóòü îá ó÷åáíèêå Ñîëîâüåâà À.Í. "Ïðîñòîé ôèíñêèé". Õîòÿ, íóæíî ïðèçíàòü, ÷òî â Ðîññèè ìàëî èçäàåòñÿ õîðîøèõ ó÷åáíûõ ïîñîáèé ïî ôèíñêîìó ÿçûêó. ((  èíòåðåíåòå ìîæíî íàéòè ó÷åáíîå ïîñîáèå Ìàðçèíîé 1995 ãîäà (íå ñàìîå ïëîõîå). |
Ñîëîâüåâà À.Í. "Ïðîñòîé ôèíñêèé"
èìåííî ýòîò ó÷åáíèê ó ìåíÿ åñòü :) |
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Ñïàñèáî áîëüøîå! |
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Chiko, ñðîê äîñòàâêè îáû÷íî 2-5 ÐÀÁÎ×ÈÕ äíÿ.Íóæíî òàêæå èçáåãàòü âèäîâ äîñòàâêè, çà êîòîðóþ ïðèä¸òñÿ äîïëàòèòü ïàðó åâðî.Îáû÷íî åñòü âûáîð: áåç äîï.çàòðàò èëè çàòðàòû íà ïàêåò è ò.ä. Ìîæíî âûáðàòü îïëàòó ñðàçó ïî êàðòå áàíêîâñêîé èëè ñ÷¸ò ïðèä¸ò âìåñòå ñ êíèãîé. Ïîíà÷àëó ÿ ïîëüçîâàëàñü îïëàòîé ñðàçó, ïîòîì ñòàëà è îïëàòîé ïî êâèòàíöèè ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ, åñëè çàêàçûâàëà íå äëÿ ñåáÿ.
Êàê âûãëÿäèò Ñîëîâüåâ À.Í. "Ïðîñòîé ôèíñêèé" è ñòðàíè÷êà ñ êóñî÷êîì ââîäíî-ôîíåòè÷åñêîãî êóðñà, ÷òîá íå ââîäèòü íàðîä â çàáëóæäåíèå ðåêëàìîé íà çàäíåé îáëîæêå êíèãè, ïðèëàãàþ. ÏûÑû: íåäàâíî êóïèëà ýòó êíèãó çà 200ðóá. íà Êðóïêå â Ïèòåðå.Êàê äîåõàòü è äîéòè òóäà, ÿ äåëèëàñü íà ôîðóìå |
Òóò áîëüøîé âûáîð ó÷åáíèêîâ, âèäåî è àóäèîóðîêîâ http://rutracker.org/forum/index.php
Ñàì îòñþäà êà÷àë, è âûêëàäûâàë òîæå :) |
ÏûÑû: íåäàâíî êóïèëà ýòó êíèãó çà 200ðóá. íà Êðóïêå â Ïèòåðå.Êàê äîåõàòü è äîéòè òóäà, ÿ äåëèëàñü íà ôîðóìå[/QUOTE]
À Âû íå çíàåòå àäðåñà ìàãàçèíîâ â Ìîñêâå ñ õîðîøåé ó÷åáíîé ëèòåðàòóðîé íà ðàçëè÷íûõ ÿçûêàõ? |
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Ñëó÷àéíî íåò "Suomi sujuvaksi 1"? Èëè "Harjoitellaanpa suomea käytännössä"- 2008? Îò Ñîëîâü¸âà áû òîæå íå îòêàçàëàñü, íî "Suomi sujuvaksi 1"íà ïåðâîì ìåñòå, íèãäå íå íàõîæó. |
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Äà, òàì âñåãî ïîëíî, êðîìå íóæíîãî ìíå "Suomi sujuvaksi 1", ê ñîæàëåíèþ. |
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Ìåòðî Ïîëÿíêà. Ïðè âûõîäå ïîâåðíèòå íàïðàâî.Òàì õîðîøèé è íåäîðîãîé ìàãàçèí "Ìîëîäàÿ ãâàðäèÿ".Âûõîä èç ìåòðî òàì òîëüêî îäèí, ïîýòîìó çàáëóäèòüñÿ íåâîçìîæíî. À Äîì Ïåäàãîãè÷åñêîé Êíèãè (ì.«Îõîòíûé ðÿä», ì.«Òåàòðàëüíàÿ») äîâîëüíî äîðîãîå óäîâîëüñòâèå. öåíòðå âåäü íàõîäèòñÿ. |
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Åñëè Âàì íå î÷åíü ñðî÷íî, òî äàéòå îáúÿâó î ïîêóïêå íà ôîðóìå.Óâåðåíà, íàéäóòñÿ ëþäè, êîòîðûì îí íå íóæåí óæå.  ìàãàçèíàõ î÷åíü äîðîãî.Èëè çàêàæèòå ïî online. Âûéäåò äåøåâëå ïðèìåðíî ïðîöåíòîâ íà 20. Äîñòàâêà â òå÷åíèè 2-5 ðàá.äíåé. |
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Ñïàñèáî áîëüøîå, îáÿçàòåëüíî çàéäó. |
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